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So, here's my defense plan for Canada. Basic philosophy: it is unsafe to wait for an attack.

1. Get public confirmation from NATO that Article 5 applies even if the aggressor is also a NATO member.
2. Send an ultimatum to Washington demanding a public acknowledgement of Canadian sovereignty by the President and confirmation of non-aggression.
3. In the absence of that acknowledgement, sever diplomatic ties, close the borders, and embargo trade. Blow bridges, tear up roads and rail lines.

4. Evacuate Canadian civilians from the border area; probably 300km or more. Yes, this is where most Canadians live.
5. Declare a security corridor of 300km on the other side of the border, in US territory. Any military activity in that area is a sign of imminent aggression and will prompt a defensive strike.
6. If anything occurs, surge forward and take territory. Keep any war on US soil, not in Canada.

@evan I'm sorry, I agree we need to have a strong plan, but pre-emptively invading the United States is, frankly, insane.

Nothing will more quickly galvanize Americans to believe Trump's lies about how we are soooo bad. Our vestigial armed forces are in no position to make such an effort. Salients are a nightmare to defend, even if forces are equal.
We would be carpet bombed to oblivion.
Abandoning cities just gives them free real estate. Lower home prices 🇺🇸!

And nobody is going to help us.

@AlexanderVI I think you might need to read through it again. In this case, the US has expressed its intention to attack and is moving troops into position within reach of the border.

Letting those troops get into position and cross our border before taking any action would be insane. Especially with 2/3 of the population only an hour from the border.

And don't worry about real estate! It will be much less valuable when it's been pounded into rubble by American bombers and missiles.

@AlexanderVI but I'd love to hear your defense plan. How would you protect Canadian sovereignty in the event of an American invasion?

@evan At present, if there's a full scale invasion, no such thing is possible. This is the most powerful military in all human history we are talking about.

To be clear, yes, a troublesome insurgency that adds to the domestic American polycrisis such that continuing is impossible is likely our only hope. But we should not be unrealistic. Vietnam went on for ages.

And moving millions of people hundreds of kilometres is simply not feasible and would pretty much immediately end our economy.

@AlexanderVI so, because resistance would be hard, accept an occupation and lose any advantages whatsoever, and hope guerrilla actions nudge towards collapse of the empire?

Hand in the guns and fight with sticks?

That's just defeatism.

@evan no, I am not saying that.
I'm specifically saying the invasion piece is not a good idea, in my opinion. Many other aspects of your plan are sound goals, and I sincerely hope we can avoid the worst. I agree we need to maximize friction.

I'm taking a Scouting approach: Be Prepared. We need civil defence organization and emergency preparedness efforts so we can support each other. We should be massively expanding something like the Reserves, maybe even a Swiss approach.

I'm preparing.

@evan if you sincerely believe the Canadian Forces can go toe to toe against the US military, I completely understand your reasoning.
From the numbers, and from what I have seen of the US military up close, we are going to have very different opinions on that.

I am glad we are at least having frank discussions about this. I hope DND is as well.

For clarity, my family came to Canada as refugees when New York was evacuated in 1783. I have personally lived in the States. I will not do so again

@AlexanderVI yeah, the US military is 10-15 times the size of Canada's, and the US economy is about 10-15 times bigger, too. We can't win a fair war.

Evan Prodromou

@AlexanderVI one hope would be that moving troops and weapons to North America for a war would destabilize other regions, requiring redeployment of those troops back to Europe, the Middle East, East Asia, or whatever.

But the US has about 1M active service members in the US right now. They wouldn't have to move anyone.