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So, here's a problem I have with Mastodon: let's say I make a post and someone replies with a racist, sexist, homophobic or transphobic comment. I can block the commenter, but that only hides it for me. Other people who come to my page will see the comment, and believe that I tacitly condone that behaviour. I'd like to be able to delete the reply from my replies list entirely. Or at least hide replies from blocked accounts. And, yes, I know that wouldn't delete it from the originating server.
@evan It's one of these classic, fundamental problems in decentralised networks ;) Who "owns" the list of replies? I would say the author of the starting thread gets to maintain the list of accepted replies and this list propagates across the fediverse. Others will say that at max a flag should be added with a qualifier and that other instances should be free to decide if/how they show/hide flagged replies. But who gets to add flags? Just the thread "owner" or any reader? Etc.
@evan I'd favour the first approach. When you load a post from me (be it an original post or a reply I posted to someone else's post) you should receive a list of replies I accept. And I should be allowed to define what that list contains. But it's a complex issue.
@jwildeboer I don't think it's a complex issue at all! It's built into the protocol.
@evan could you say more about that? My only point of reference is what’s implemented in masto. What’s in the protocol that could be implemented differently?
@evan update: I’ve gleaned the basics from your replies to others - thanks. Also boy do a lot of people want to explain AP to you. How do you stay so calm?
@fraying The protocol-as-implemented is different, sometimes a lot, from protocol-as-designed. I depend a lot on people telling me how things really work.
@evan so the part about post owners editing the list of replies is in the protocol as designed but not the protocol as implemented?
@fraying correct
@fraying well, actually, not entirely. We have a part that says that there's a collection of replies, and we have a part that says you can edit any collection that belongs to you. It doesn't say explicitly that you can edit that particular collection.
@evan are there other implementations that do right now?
I don't know if this is just Mastodon's bizarre way of organizing comment threads, or what, but I'm really not seeing anything about better ActivityPub implementations in this thread, and keyword search for "Friendica" isn't turning anything up.
I saw some stuff about Cohost and Post, but I don't know if those are AP?
Any chance you could link to the relevant portions of the thread?
https://fediversity.site/item/b8368169-ebe8-4e51-801f-062a7ff991d4
Good luck in your research.
Wordpress+ActivityPub, micro.blog, Brid.gy etc, are the ultimate version of this as you stated above;
All replies go into the wordpress moderation system complete with anti-spam if you have the plug-in.
on Starrwulfe.xyz, I have it set for all comments to be through the syndication links themselves (i.e. wherever I've POSSE'd the article should pull comments back to the blog.) I can then deal with questionable comments on both sides by using tools on my blog as well as whatever tools are at my disposal at whatever instance I'm pulling the comment from.)